I know all that. … I know all that. But the point is, even though we are vaccinating, we actually have more pertussis and more infant deaths. As far as I am concerned, they seriously need to improve the vaccine. Even vaccinated kids can get pertussis and although they will have mild illness themselves, which is good, they can still pass ot on to babies. They should make a vaccine that actually makes and keeps you immune for a decent length of time.
I found the data on … I found the data on the CDC site you are referring to. It is in an article titled “Pertussis — United States, 2001–2003″, Pertussis being of course whooping cough. If you actually critically read the whole thing, the article acknowledges the problem as having to do with adolescents’ vaccines wearing off and requiring boosters. The vaccine works, and we should all be immunized to it because if we’re not, babies who can’t yet be vaccinated will be susceptible.
I don’t remember … I don’t remember the name of the study in Israel, but just look up ‘whooping cough outbreak vaccinated israel toddlers’ u should find it.
85% protection after 4 shots is from Health Canada and from vaccine manufacturers’ own studies. Just look up everything I brought up.btw I am not anti pertussis vaccine, I am just pro safe and effective pertussis vaccine.
Go to naturalbaby(dot)info, there are stats and sources there also.
CDC’s own … CDC’s own statistics. Go on their site, they tell you right there we have 10x more now than in the 70′s an dif you look at the vaccination rates in the 70′s, it was as low as 40% in 76. Look it up.
Whooping cough is … Whooping cough is 10 x higher now in the US with vaccination rates at 98% than it was in ’76 with vaccination at 40%. The vaccination doesn’t seem to be of much help, overall.
The reality is that … The reality is that we have 10x as many cases overall and 10x as many deaths in infants now that vaccination is at 98% than we did in ’76 when vaccination was at 40%. I’m not sure vaccination is working well at all when it comes to pertussis. One study on an epidemic in Israel showed that immunity can wear off after as little as 2 years. And only 85% of kids are immune after the 4 shots. There is definitely a problem.
This is so wrong. … This is so wrong. BIG PHARM PROPAGANDA. It’s all exactly like ninammam says. Vaccination doesn’t ensure immunity, it can just lead to a ‘masked’ form of whooping cough which is harder to diagnose and harder to treat.
BULLSHIT!!! KILL … BULLSHIT!!! KILL the parent save the children PROPAGANDA FOR BIG PHARM!!!!! I feel so terrible for all the new mothers out there!!! I am the mother of 2 daughters who are mothers and MY ADVICE to then DO NOT VACCINATE!!! YOURSELF OR YOUR CHILDREN with any of the vaccines past 1984!!
Whooping cough can … Whooping cough can kill babies. And this sort of thing is on the rise especially in certain areas of Australia populated by anti-vaccination people. In fact there is at least on case over there of an innocent baby (that is not of anti-vax parents) dying of whooping cough because the herd immunity level of the adults was so low that she caught it. It’s good to see at least one celebrity using their voice to hopefully counteract those of people like Jenny McCarthy.
Promotion yes but … Promotion yes but midwives forcing women to breastfeed is totally wrong! Like I said my mother was forced to do so & could not because she was so ill. Women who don’t produce much milk are made to feel bad. I go to a Bipolar support group where EIGHT mothers were made to feel bad for not feeding, even though they were on medications which would harm baby. They were also made to feel bad for starting meds again even though Bipolar women become very ill after birth. It’s a womans RIGHT to choose!
Individual cases do … Individual cases do not constitute a rebuttal to population-level data. You were lucky, and your boyfriend was unlucky. Breastfeeding decreases the statistical likelihood of health problems over a population, and there are no drawbacks. There is no reason not to breastfeed, and every reason to promote it.
This is regarding awareness about whooping cough.
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
if you don’t mind …
if you don’t mind me asking, why cause i don’t know much about this stuff.
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
I know all that. …
I know all that. But the point is, even though we are vaccinating, we actually have more pertussis and more infant deaths. As far as I am concerned, they seriously need to improve the vaccine. Even vaccinated kids can get pertussis and although they will have mild illness themselves, which is good, they can still pass ot on to babies. They should make a vaccine that actually makes and keeps you immune for a decent length of time.
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
I found the data on …
I found the data on the CDC site you are referring to. It is in an article titled “Pertussis — United States, 2001–2003″, Pertussis being of course whooping cough. If you actually critically read the whole thing, the article acknowledges the problem as having to do with adolescents’ vaccines wearing off and requiring boosters. The vaccine works, and we should all be immunized to it because if we’re not, babies who can’t yet be vaccinated will be susceptible.
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
I don’t remember …
I don’t remember the name of the study in Israel, but just look up ‘whooping cough outbreak vaccinated israel toddlers’ u should find it.
85% protection after 4 shots is from Health Canada and from vaccine manufacturers’ own studies. Just look up everything I brought up.btw I am not anti pertussis vaccine, I am just pro safe and effective pertussis vaccine.
Go to naturalbaby(dot)info, there are stats and sources there also.
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
CDC’s own …
CDC’s own statistics. Go on their site, they tell you right there we have 10x more now than in the 70′s an dif you look at the vaccination rates in the 70′s, it was as low as 40% in 76. Look it up.
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
sources? What peer …
sources? What peer reviewed study did you get this from?
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
Whooping cough is …
Whooping cough is 10 x higher now in the US with vaccination rates at 98% than it was in ’76 with vaccination at 40%. The vaccination doesn’t seem to be of much help, overall.
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
The reality is that …
The reality is that we have 10x as many cases overall and 10x as many deaths in infants now that vaccination is at 98% than we did in ’76 when vaccination was at 40%. I’m not sure vaccination is working well at all when it comes to pertussis. One study on an epidemic in Israel showed that immunity can wear off after as little as 2 years. And only 85% of kids are immune after the 4 shots. There is definitely a problem.
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
This is so wrong. …
This is so wrong. BIG PHARM PROPAGANDA. It’s all exactly like ninammam says. Vaccination doesn’t ensure immunity, it can just lead to a ‘masked’ form of whooping cough which is harder to diagnose and harder to treat.
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
i wish i did…i …
i wish i did…i accidentaly gave it to my daughter…and shes in hospital on iv and oxygern rightn now.GET VACCINATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
BULLSHIT!!! KILL …
BULLSHIT!!! KILL the parent save the children PROPAGANDA FOR BIG PHARM!!!!! I feel so terrible for all the new mothers out there!!! I am the mother of 2 daughters who are mothers and MY ADVICE to then DO NOT VACCINATE!!! YOURSELF OR YOUR CHILDREN with any of the vaccines past 1984!!
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
LOLRUS
LOLRUS
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
I watched the whole …
I watched the whole thing expecting some friggin LOL moment….damn you lol people.
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
HAHA
HAHA
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
lolocaust
lolocaust
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
LAWL
LAWL
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
LOL
LOL
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
Whooping cough can …
Whooping cough can kill babies. And this sort of thing is on the rise especially in certain areas of Australia populated by anti-vaccination people. In fact there is at least on case over there of an innocent baby (that is not of anti-vax parents) dying of whooping cough because the herd immunity level of the adults was so low that she caught it. It’s good to see at least one celebrity using their voice to hopefully counteract those of people like Jenny McCarthy.
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
my 6 year old son …
my 6 year old son has it bad- he sleeps ok at night thank god – he is on Predmix + an antibiotic
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
cool
cool
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
i have just been …
i have just been blood-test confirmed whooping cough.
australian outbreak…
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
i had whooping …
i had whooping cough last month
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
have you ever have …
have you ever have it before i have its not funny esplacy when you can get a cracked rib from it
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
Promotion yes but …
Promotion yes but midwives forcing women to breastfeed is totally wrong! Like I said my mother was forced to do so & could not because she was so ill. Women who don’t produce much milk are made to feel bad. I go to a Bipolar support group where EIGHT mothers were made to feel bad for not feeding, even though they were on medications which would harm baby. They were also made to feel bad for starting meds again even though Bipolar women become very ill after birth. It’s a womans RIGHT to choose!
31.August, 2009 um 3:20 pm
Individual cases do …
Individual cases do not constitute a rebuttal to population-level data. You were lucky, and your boyfriend was unlucky. Breastfeeding decreases the statistical likelihood of health problems over a population, and there are no drawbacks. There is no reason not to breastfeed, and every reason to promote it.